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She cant sell the car without any paperwork, even locally in germany. We have two set of paperwork which are required by law here, Fahrzeugschein and fahrzeugbreif, the schein is what you carry around with the car showing its registered, taxed, and insured ( at least when the car was registered) it also shows the tuv dates ( MOT). The breif is the proof of ownership, like the bill of sale, without that she cant sell the car even within germany, cause you cant get the car registered here without it. If she has lost it, then she can request a new one thru her local zulassungstehle (vehicle registration) but that takes 3-4 weeks as they do a check on the car to verify ownership and make sure its not stolen. If she doesnt give you a schein and breif with the car, dont touch it you will never get it registered in the UK, and you will spend a few hundred quid and a few months waiting for your mot to track the car thru the germans, and it will end up being a massive headache. The service heft or maintaince records are a nice to have, but a requirement and there so easy to fake. As for accidents, european law requires ( as does german) that when a car is sold the new owner is informed if the car has ever had an accident ( an accident per legal definition is any incident where wing or bumper was replaced, this includes parking dents if the bumper was replaced) not that it will help you if you find out afterwards it was an accident car, as it will cost a fair ammount of money and alot of time to try and get your money back.
you can try to view the car, you can fly from stanstead to Hahn with ryan-air for about 50quid, and take a train to see the car, before you decide to buy it, or post us a link to the car and maybe if someone lives close to it, one of us can go check it out and try to clarify with her, whats really going on with the car.
cheers
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you can try to view the car, you can fly from stanstead to Hahn with ryan-air for about 50quid, and take a train to see the car, before you decide to buy it, or post us a link to the car and maybe if someone lives close to it, one of us can go check it out and try to clarify with her, whats really going on with the car.
cheers
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@Daniel:
Legally speaking, the guy who has the Fahrzeugbrief is the owner. So if you do not get that document, you cannot become the owner.
Sometimes banks keep the Brief. So they can sell your car, if you do not pay your loan rates.
I guess:
a) the car is stolen
b) owned by a bank
c) the is owned by the seller's ex-boyfriend and she wants to annoy him
Case a): Do not buy the car! The previous and legal owner (or his insurance company) is allowed to take it back from you, if he finds out.
Case b): Do not buy the car! The bank is allowed, to take the car back.
Case c): Do not buy the car! You will have to give it back to her ex-boyfriend.
As said before. If the seller is the legal owner, she can request a new Brief. If she does not do so, she is not the legal owner. Then I'd recommend you to inform German police. So they can search the correct owner and give the car back to him.
Also note: Even the license plate may be stolen from another car.
Legally speaking, the guy who has the Fahrzeugbrief is the owner. So if you do not get that document, you cannot become the owner.
Sometimes banks keep the Brief. So they can sell your car, if you do not pay your loan rates.
I guess:
a) the car is stolen
b) owned by a bank
c) the is owned by the seller's ex-boyfriend and she wants to annoy him
Case a): Do not buy the car! The previous and legal owner (or his insurance company) is allowed to take it back from you, if he finds out.
Case b): Do not buy the car! The bank is allowed, to take the car back.
Case c): Do not buy the car! You will have to give it back to her ex-boyfriend.
As said before. If the seller is the legal owner, she can request a new Brief. If she does not do so, she is not the legal owner. Then I'd recommend you to inform German police. So they can search the correct owner and give the car back to him.
Also note: Even the license plate may be stolen from another car.
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